The Fourth Curtain podcast team writes, “This week’s guest is a poet, writing the poetry of fun. Author of the essential ‘A Theory of Fun’, creator of Ultima Online and Stars Wars Galaxies, he’s likely the world’s foremost expert on MMOs. Game industry fundamentals being made for the first time with Raph Koster.”

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The Fourth Curtain podcast is hosted by Alexander Seropian and Aaron Marroquin. Find them at or wherever fine podcasts are found. Follow them on X at @fourthcurtain and follow Raph at @raphkoster.